Had mine 10 years ago, wish I had had it done sooner - and mine went all wrong!!
Easier than going to the dentist
Jim
would you recommend it?.
i've got an appointment to see my doctor in less than an hour for some pre-op discussion.
i guess they want to make sure that i am sure!.
Had mine 10 years ago, wish I had had it done sooner - and mine went all wrong!!
Easier than going to the dentist
Jim
what does it take to become a circuit overseer?.
the watchtower bible track society relies very heavily upon these men to make sure that they have a tight grip on each congregation.. the structure for control that the wt.
has in place needs it's eyes and ears to find out whether or not a congregation is following all the rules that the wt has laid out for it.
Features of a good CO:-
No feeling - do what the wtbs says
Follow the book - bring everyone into line who is not
CYA - incase things go wrong - make sure nothing is pointing at you
Be like bill clinton - be the teflon kid, nothing sticks
Be humble - you get paid more "gifts" that way
Frighten people over one issue ' they feel you are more spiritual
Jim
just thought i'd let you'll know that today is my 34th birthday.
i recieved loads of gifts which my kids helped me open (i think they were more excited than i was).
i've been noticing a few grey hairs showing recently and its becoming more of a struggle to keep my waist size down.
You are very naughty
Reportb yourelf to the BOE and beg for repentance
You can be DF for even remembering your birthday - but TELLING people is just too much
(Have a great day!!)
Jim
anybody heard anything about major charity changes in bethel mill hill.
notices are being sent out to all congs about it - anybody heard anything?.
jim
Anybody heard anything about major charity changes in Bethel Mill Hill
Notices are being sent out to all congs about it - anybody heard anything?
Jim
farris lee huff, one of jehovah's witnesses, signed on with the national coalition for drug policy change.
he listed the words (ministerial service) beside his name.
he signed on under the classification of (clergy).. there were two different documents, with two different dates, one signed in 1994, and the other in 1995. the documents however, look almost identical, with only different dates.. go here and keep scrolling down until your scroll bar gets to be about 1/2 of the way down, look for 3 reverends names to be listed in a row, just above farris lee huff.. go here for 1995 document:.
Wonder how long he was a MS for after the Borg found out?
they don't care
they enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line.
they have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
Just to kind of round this one off
Reading peoples comments I have found that - although to some I am a "Little South", nevertheless there seems to have been a nerve touched here
I speak from personal experience. I gave up trying to be kind, moderate, helpful and loving. I was hounded out of the BOE - yet my concience is clear. Politics plays a huge role in the BOE. The hard liners get the bigger jobs.
Reading through the posts I thought all of you were in my cong!! Same the world over. The christlike are **** upon and the hardliners bulldoze there way through. Yet the generation of elders we took over from (I'm 50) were christlike, were caring, were forgiving and loving.
Whats happened?
Now its who is best selling the books, and eforcing - they are the elders now. What does the future hold?
He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword
Jim
they don't care
they enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line.
they have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
Body of Elders commitees are always as follows
1. Lesser sin (Smoking, Confession (please forgive, Snogging and groping etc). 2 Younger Elders and 1 hardline (always the head of the committee)
2. Fornication, adultary - 2 hardline elders and one younger elder
3. Elders children, elders adultry, major cases, apostasy -then you get the 3 hardline elders whose mission is to "keep the congregation clean"
NB These 3 elders will be the ones on circuit/district assemblies - thats how you progress as an elder, be hardline on judicial matters
Jim
they don't care
they enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line.
they have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
They don't care
They enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line. They have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
I've been with this lot for 35 years - 12 of them as an elder.
Rule number one - no-one cares. I'f you've attempted suicide they will publicy reprove you and tell you to go more on the work (big help), if you've been disfellowshipped then "its in Gods hands - but Jehovah won't show compassion because the one who committed suicide turned his/her back on Jehovah. Rule Number two - if you want to get on as an Elder- be seen as a hard line, law enforcer. Disfellowship someone senior (pref another Elder) and you are seen as theocratic, strong and righteous. Rule number three - As an Elder - if you show compassion, reason or care - then the other elders make your life a misery (I know thanks - its what happened to me)
In your congregation - How many depressed, mentally ill, suicidal people do the elders visit to try and offer practical help - answer? The majority cannot be bothered - but they will chase you up if your report is late
Jim
i have heard the rumor more than once that people have avoided df'ing by threatening to kill themselves if they are df'd.
has anyone else heard of this?
They don't care
They enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line
I've been with this lot for 35 years - 12 of them as an elder.
Rule number one - no-one cares. I'f you've attempted suicide they will publicy reprove you and tell you to go more on the work (big help), if you've been disfellowshipped then "its in Gods hands - but Jehovah won't show compassion because the one who committed suicide turned his/her back on Jehovah.
In your congregation - How many depressed, mentally ill, suicidal people do the elders visit to try and offer practical help - answer NONE
Jim
anyone know any ex-jw's from the preston, lancashire area of the uk?
used to hang around with an Ian Webster, I think he lives up in the preston area. His wife name is Val
He used to be a moter bike nut, met him at the TT a few times, came from Birkenhead
Jim